Re: PTC Nine
Posted by Chris in Tampa on 7/28/2020, 11:13 pm
Still PTC Nine at 11pm EDT Tuesday.

5pm NHC discussion was good and 11pm seems good too even though I have just skimmed it so far. A lot of uncertainty.

11pm EDT Tuesday NHC Discussion:



Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine Discussion Number 3
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092020
1100 PM AST Tue Jul 28 2020

Earlier wind data from an Air Force reconnaissance aircraft and a
recent 0038Z ASCAT-A overpass indicate that the disturbance has not
become any better organized since the previous advisory. There were
indications of a circulation center located near the position
estimate used in this advisory. However, there was a sharp cusp
noted in the ASCAT wind field, and that was used for positioning
the disturbance since it lies closest to the strong convective band
and best upper-level divergence. The initial intensity of 35 kt is
based on several ASCAT wind vectors of 35-36 kt located well north
of the center. The 35-kt intensity is also consistent with a 0000Z
TAFB Dvorak satellite intensity estimate of T2.5/35 kt.

The initial motion estimate is an uncertain 295/22 kt. The ridge to
the north of the disturbance is forecast to remain strong for the
next 36-48 h, which keeps the system moving in a general
west-northwestward direction across the Lesser Antilles tonight and
Wednesday, and near or over the Greater Antilles Wednesday night and
Thursday. For such a loosely organized system at this time, the
models are in fairly good agreement on the large disturbance
slowing down significantly after 48 h, reaching forward speeds of
only 10-12 kt when it reaches the very warm waters of the Straits
of Florida in 72-96 h. On days 4 and 5, the system is expected to
slow even further and turn northward into a break in the subtropical
ridge that is expected to develop across Florida and the Bahamas.
The new NHC track forecast is similar to but a little south of the
previous advisory track, mainly due to the more westward initial
position, and lies along the southern portion of the guidance
envelope near the middle of the consensus models. Regardless of
the exact track, the system is expected to bring locally heavy
rainfall to much of the Lesser Antilles, and tropical-storm-force
winds to portions of the Leeward Islands, the Virgin Islands, and
Puerto Rico during the next 24 hours.

The intensity forecast remains problematic for primarily two
reasons: 1) the lack of a well-defined center and inner-core wind
field and 2) likely land interaction to some degree. In the
short-term, a bonafide center could develop tonight in response to
the expected development of intense convection caused by orographic
forcing by the mountainous islands of the central and northern
Leeward Islands. Once a center closes off, which has likely been
inhibited from doing so due to the disturbance's fast forward speed
in excess of 20 kt, the low-level convergence will improve and
convection will become more organized and symmetrical, allowing for
strengthening to occur. The main question is how much land
interaction with Puerto Rico and Hispaniola will disrupt the
circulation in the 36-48-hour period. Assuming the system remains
intact after emerging off the coast of Hispaniola, the slow track
over the very warm waters of the Straits of Florida would result in
more strengthening, assuming the system doesn't interact with the
Cuban landmass. Although the GFS-and ECMWF-based SHIPS intensity
guidance shows considerable southwesterly vertical wind shear of
20-30 kt in the 72-96 h period when the disturbance is over the
Straits, the global model fields show that this is self-induced
shear caused by the SHIPS model incorporating the system's
impressive upper-level outflow winds in its shear calculations. As a
result, this is not being considered a negative intensity factor
compared to land interaction. Due to aforementioned uncertainties,
the new NHC intensity forecast remains on the conservative side, and
lies between the slightly weaker IVCN and stronger NOAA-HCCA
consensus models. Interests in Hispaniola, the Bahamas, Cuba, and
Florida should continue to monitor forecasts as changes to both the
track and intensity are likely.

Key Messages:

1. Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine will produce heavy rains and
potentially life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides across
the northern Leeward Islands, the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and
the Dominican Republic.

2. Tropical storm conditions are likely across portions of the
Leeward Islands, the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and portions of
the Dominican Republic beginning Wednesday and spreading westward
through Thursday. Tropical Storm Warnings are in effect for these
areas. Do not focus on the details of the track forecast, as
rainfall and wind hazards will extend far from the center of the
system.

3. The details of the long-range track and intensity forecasts are
more uncertain than usual since the system does not have a
well-defined center and it could move over portions of the Greater
Antilles later this week. However, this system could bring some
rainfall and wind impacts to portions of Hispaniola, Cuba, the
Bahamas, and Florida by the end of the week. Interests there should
monitor its progress and updates to the forecast over the next few
days.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 29/0300Z 14.6N 59.4W 35 KT 40 MPH...POTENTIAL TROP CYCLONE
12H 29/1200Z 15.7N 62.3W 40 KT 45 MPH
24H 30/0000Z 17.4N 65.9W 45 KT 50 MPH
36H 30/1200Z 18.7N 69.3W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND
48H 31/0000Z 20.1N 72.6W 45 KT 50 MPH...OVER WATER
60H 31/1200Z 21.5N 75.5W 50 KT 60 MPH
72H 01/0000Z 22.8N 77.7W 55 KT 65 MPH
96H 02/0000Z 25.7N 80.7W 55 KT 65 MPH...INLAND
120H 03/0000Z 27.9N 82.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND

$$
Forecaster Stewart







Satellite:

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/floater.php?sat=G16&stormid=AL092020

https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/storm.asp?storm_identifier=al092020

http://hurricanecity.com/custom-satellite/index.htm?lat=15&lon=-63&type=Animation&numframes=12&mapcolor=white

https://realearth.ssec.wisc.edu/?center=14.2,-58.4&zoom=6&timespan=-6h&products=globalwv.-100,global1kmvis.-100,globalir.-100,globalir-bd.-100,globalir-funk.-100,globalir-ott.-100,globalir-nhc.-100,globalwv-grad.-100,globalvis.-100,globalir-avn.65&timeproduct=globalir-avn



Radar:

http://www.meteofrance.gp/previsions-meteo-antilles-guyane/animation/radar/antilles

https://www.barbadosweather.org/

Later, Puerto Rico:
https://www.wunderground.com/radar/us/pr/san-juan/jua


Low level steering:

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/dlmmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=dlm1&zoom=&time=



The two main global models differ by quite a bit. 18Z GFS around Cape Hatteras, NC and the 12Z Euro around Destin/Panama City, FL. NHC splits difference.


GFS:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=watl&pkg=mslp_uv850

Euro:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=watl&pkg=mslp_uv850



GFS ensemble members:
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs-ens&region=watl&pkg=mslp_uv850

In that ensemble imagery, the numbers are for example:

05: 1005mb (weaker)
95: 995mb
85: 985mb
75: 975mb (stronger)

Some of strongest are further east and some of weakest further west, with a few exceptions.

The system seems to be moving pretty fast right now too. Hopefully that makes it more difficult to get better organized right now, though that would mean it might make it further west. How much land interaction there is is also really important.

NHC track:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/?cone#contents

You can see that if it were to run across a lot of islands, which at that angle it could, it wouldn't be able to strengthen as much. But I think we've kind of seen this before, where it sometimes ends up going south of the islands. It moves so fast it just zips along more west than forecast. We'll have to see how it does over next day or so.



I like the SHIPS model text output. You can see the difference from the model when it takes into account land, and when it doesn't. With land interaction, 27 knots in 5 days. If you ignore the fact that it is going over land, 60 knots.


* GFS version *
* ATLANTIC 2020 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* NINE AL092020 07/29/20 00 UTC *

TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
V (KT) NO LAND 35 37 40 44 47 51 55 56 55 55 56 55 55 54 55 60 60
V (KT) LAND 35 37 40 44 47 45 35 40 39 39 40 39 39 38 33 29 27

V (KT) LGEM 35 36 38 40 42 45 33 34 32 30 30 31 32 34 31 28 27
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP

SHEAR (KT) 4 7 8 5 9 13 26 26 22 23 21 21 24 26 30 25 32
SHEAR ADJ (KT) -1 3 1 1 5 11 4 4 4 1 -1 1 1 2 2 -1 0
SHEAR DIR 132 262 284 260 225 244 238 256 239 244 224 250 226 238 221 234 215
SST (C) 28.4 28.5 29.0 28.8 29.0 28.9 29.5 29.1 29.4 29.2 30.2 29.9 29.7 29.9 30.7 30.6 30.6
POT. INT. (KT) 146 147 155 151 155 153 162 155 160 154 170 167 163 167 170 169 167
ADJ. POT. INT. 146 147 155 151 155 153 159 148 150 139 152 147 142 143 154 147 142
200 MB T (C) -52.4 -52.6 -52.6 -52.2 -52.1 -52.0 -51.6 -51.8 -51.8 -52.0 -51.6 -51.7 -51.4 -51.7 -51.5 -52.2 -52.6
200 MB VXT (C) 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.3 0.6 0.7 0.5 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.3 0.2 0.7 0.3 0.0
TH_E DEV (C) 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 10 11 8 10 6 10
700-500 MB RH 59 57 57 58 54 46 42 42 44 47 47 45 43 41 42 46 50
MODEL VTX (KT) 18 19 19 21 21 20 20 18 16 15 15 13 13 11 13 15 15
850 MB ENV VOR 110 104 97 85 72 62 30 19 3 -19 -25 -26 7 10 32 45 27
200 MB DIV 64 49 39 46 77 62 30 17 -8 2 18 7 24 19 26 27 16
700-850 TADV -8 4 13 6 2 18 24 13 -8 0 1 0 -1 0 -1 4 2
LAND (KM) 471 455 465 277 123 -2 -11 23 22 73 63 36 67 76 -61 -112 -121
LAT (DEG N) 14.2 14.9 15.5 16.2 16.9 18.4 19.8 20.9 22.4 23.6 24.6 25.8 27.1 xx.x xx.x xx.x xx.x
LONG(DEG W) 58.4 60.4 62.4 64.1 65.8 69.6 72.8 75.4 78.3 80.1 81.0 82.0 83.2 xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x xxx.x
STM SPEED (KT) 22 20 19 18 19 18 15 14 13 8 7 8 8 7 7 4 2
HEAT CONTENT 42 36 43 42 83 54 54 35 55 47 47 52 46 46 22 6 6

FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):290/ 23 CX,CY: -21/ 8
T-12 MAX WIND: 35 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 540 (MEAN=620)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 22.8 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 72.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 35 KT IN 36 HR): 16.3

INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 12. 13. 14. 14. 15. 16.
SST POTENTIAL 0. 0. 1. 1. 3. 8. 14. 19. 23. 25. 28. 31. 34. 35. 36. 35.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 5. 3. 1. -1. -3. -6. -7. -10. -13. -15. -17.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. -0. -0. -0. -2. -3. -4. -4. -3. -2. -2. -1. -1. -1. -1. -0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR -0. -0. -1. -1. -2. -4. -5. -5. -6. -6. -6. -6. -6. -5. -4. -3.
PERSISTENCE -0. -1. -1. -1. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -1. -0.
200/250 MB TEMP. -0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -3. -3. -3. -3. -4. -4. -5. -4. -4. -4.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0.
700-500 MB RH -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 1.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. -0. -3. -6. -8. -11. -13. -14. -16. -14. -12. -11.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. -0. -0. 0. 0.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
ZONAL STORM MOTION -0. -0. 0. 0. 1. 2. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 6. 6. 6. 7. 7.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK -0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0.
RI POTENTIAL 0. 1. 1. 2. 3. 2. 2. 1. 0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE 2. 5. 9. 12. 16. 20. 21. 20. 20. 21. 20. 20. 19. 20. 25. 25.

CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 35. LAT, LON: 14.2 58.4

** 2020 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL092020 NINE 07/29/20 00 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MOREMAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)

Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT) : 0.0 -49.5 to 33.0 0.60 4.9
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 6.8 30.1 to 2.3 0.84 2.7
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/CM2) : 49.2 0.0 to 151.8 0.32 1.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 22.8 36.6 to 2.8 0.41 1.4
MAXIMUM WIND (KT) : 35.0 22.5 to 137.5 0.33 0.6
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : -1.0 2.9 to -2.9 0.68 1.5
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (W/M2) : 194.0 895.4 to -55.0 0.74 1.6
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 116.0 27.5 to 139.6 0.79 0.6
D200 (10**7s-1) : 55.0 -29.7 to 185.9 0.39 0.2
%area of TPW <45 mm upshear : 0.0 100.0 to 0.0 1.00 0.2

SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 6% is 1.2 times climatological mean ( 5.0%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 21% is 1.9 times climatological mean (10.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 15% is 2.1 times climatological mean ( 6.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 11% is 2.7 times climatological mean ( 3.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 10% is 3.9 times climatological mean ( 2.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 12% is 2.7 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 14% is 3.1 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 20% is 3.8 times climatological mean ( 5.2%)

Matrix of RI probabilities
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48 |65/72
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHIPS-RII: 5.9% 21.1% 14.7% 10.5% 9.8% 12.4% 14.1% 19.9%
Logistic: 5.5% 15.3% 11.0% 1.9% 0.5% 1.6% 2.4% 1.7%
Bayesian: 1.9% 0.3% 3.7% 0.3% 0.1% 0.9% 2.1% 0.5%
Consensus: 4.4% 12.2% 9.8% 4.2% 3.5% 5.0% 6.2% 7.4%
DTOPS: 2.0% 8.0% 3.0% 1.0% 0.0% 1.0% 0.0% 5.0%

## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL092020 NINE 07/29/20 00 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=5 NFAIL=2 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##

** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL092020 NINE 07/29/2020 00 UTC **
TIME(HR) 0-12 12-24(0-24) 24-36(0-36) 36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)

** DSHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST ADJUSTED RELATIVE TO ONSET OF ERC WEAKENING PHASE **
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
>24HR AGO (DSHIPS) 35 37 40 44 47 45 35 40 39 39 40 39 39 38 33 29 27
18HR AGO 35 34 37 41 44 42 32 37 36 36 37 36 36 35 30 26 24
12HR AGO 35 32 31 35 38 36 26 31 30 30 31 30 30 29 24 20 18
6HR AGO 35 29 26 25 28 26 16 21 20 20 21 20 20 19 DIS DIS DIS
NOW CURRENT INTENSITY < 83 KT
IN 6HR INTENSITY IN 6HR < 83 KT
IN 12HR INTENSITY IN 12HR < 83 KT


From:
https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/stext/?C=M;O=D








I'm not sure how to define the Continental U.S. Most definitions don't seem to include Puerto Rico, even though it is part of North America. (P.R. of course will likely impacted with some rain)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contiguous_United_States

Seems like Continental U.S. likely includes the contiguous U.S., which is the lower 48, as well as adding Alaska. (and D.C. who knows)

I accidentally closed the window I was typing this post in after I was just about done, so this version is a bit more abbreviated.
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